IT Complexity: You Can Never Solve It

IT Complexity: You Can Never Solve It

IT Complexity: You Can Never Solve It

IT admins are always off, hurrying somewhere or the other, putting out fires. It seems that their job has moved from empowering organizations to ensuring systems stay online for efficient work.

All the while managing all compliances. Only for all of it to crash and burn after some error in some system crashes the applications the end user is working on. And then everyone panics, the DevOps team, the CI/CD team, and everyone in between starts blaming IT for not doing the job well.

That should be part of the job description – “Blame the IT guys.”

It’s a meme at this point.

However, these tech teams don’t understand that IT complexity arises because of the layers and layers of applications, services, and systems running in sync with each other.

And the solution to solve this problem is as gargantuan as the problem itself. There are many fixes that IT teams employ, but can there be a definitive one, and do leaders, beyond the CIO, get the severity of it all?

Let’s venture to search for a clear answer.

Why is the IT architecture such a mess?

No, it isn’t because the IT teams love being surrounded by wires and servers, and that’s why they build equally messy systems.

The reason behind it is that there is no clear answer to writing better code, nor can it be handled by a single system. Yes, there have been attempts at improving architecture with methods like modular monolith structures and clean architectures, but these, too, increase complexity instead of decreasing it.

The sole reason is simple: There are too many applications and API calls that muddle up the process. There’s your HR software, then there’s the CRM, then there’s the ERP, the SaaS products, the finance products, so on and so forth, and then there are the native applications.

Then there are internal productions and external tools that need access to these internal tools, and the list goes on. Imagine your IT team is not just taking care of some core business function.

They’re taking care of all of it.

And there’s another layer that goes unnoticed- the humans involved in the process.

Why does IT complexity arise?

There are many layers stacked on top of each other. Systems sending telemetry reports, the APIs calling AI systems and other software, and then there are the failures.

If a single instance crashes, maybe it’s the K8 engineer’s job, but what happens when the entire application node crashes?

That’s the problem of the software engineers, the CI/CD team, and the IT team together. Imagine so many people in one room, waiting patiently for the problem to be solved. There’s going to be tension there and the possibility of: what if we can’t solve this?

There’s the CEO breathing down your neck and the users waiting for applications to go back online. If you’re a SaaS company, these downtimes are a blow to your reputation and lead to losses.

These are the stakes, very human stakes, that give rise to complexity. And it’s an organizational problem- not just the IT department’s.

Can IT complexity be solved?

Okay, this question has no set answer, like at all. Many organizations have tried and failed. Simplification is not possible, and it doesn’t need to be.

Everyone has tried simplifying, and that created limited systems that can’t be scaled. And for start-ups and SaaS companies, well, that’s not going to fare well at all.

Growth is what makes a start-up. And SaaS must be scalable and resilient.

However, the conclusion leaders force on the IT team is to reduce complexity. There are many tools and dashboards designed for it, whether that’s scrum meetings, tools like Atlas, or initiatives that reduce human error. Maybe there’s less chaos on the field when teams collaborate to solve the problem.

Yes, that is the natural choice. However, there is something deeper that operates within this system. And it cannot be solved for.

It is an immutable law of all systems: entropy.

IT complexity can be managed, not solved.

This piece has actually turned into a venture. While researching, we found many disparate solutions. Some pieces suggest using a tool or using a single vendor, but won’t these create newer complexities?

Most leaders take a brute force approach to solving complexity- let the IT guy do it. And while your CIO does cut costs for you and reduce everything universally possible, they will hit limits that aren’t physically scalable.

Yet, leaders want growth. Growth at the price of what exactly?

The answer is clear: operational efficiency.

Companies eliminate operational efficiency to save money and customer uptime, ending up in a loop where this exact thing starts affecting their business negatively. Let’s talk about Larry Tesler’s law, called Tesler’s law (go figure!)

In it, he posits, every application has an inherent complexity that cannot be removed or hidden. Instead, it must be dealt with either in product development or in user interaction.

The simplest example of this is the GUI. Organizations manage complexity while users click buttons and levers. The same is happening to your servers, and while you can use managed services, which is actually the easier option, it moves the complexity to another plate. And then they have to manage complexity.

But the point is to make leaders aware of the variables involved and what they need to do.

So we’ve got down to the awareness of it all. Eliminating complexity won’t actually make your systems smarter; computing gets rigid. It cannot be scaled.

What role does entropy play in IT complexity?

Every system experiences entropy. It reaches a state of equilibrium, i.e., from structure to non-structure, and this non-structure is essential. Balanced entropy in computing actually makes the systems efficient.

But, as applications are stacked, the entropy reaches a tipping point where the information devolves into disorder or the rate of disorder begins to increase. For example, here’s a simulation we ran.

Imagine you have 73 servers, which are 98% resilient, and then you have a 74th server with 95% resilience. The probability that at least one node in the server fails is 78%, which is the baseline. Now, imagine what happens when applications and nodes fail in succession?

It’s chaos.

And that’s why there are days when your systems crash, servers can’t be accessed, or end users experience downtime. And there’s at least one day when this happens.

Remember CrowdStrike? The cascading effect is entropy at work. Since all systems are interdependent, one failure could lead to the next. And it does this to achieve equilibrium.

In short, your systems fail because it’s the path of least resistance.

So what can help you here? As leaders, you need something that has existed before was even a thing.

It’s called Chaos Engineering.

And your CTOs, CIOs, and even Jr. Engineers, probably and hopefully, know about it.

Chaos Engineering- Pioneered by Netflix.

What is the most server-intensive task in the world? AI data centers are obviously number one. And number 2 has to be Netflix (opinion alert).

They completely changed how businesses move to the cloud. Every organization wants to create a resilient system, but how exactly?

This is the answer. It has the makings of a great strategy.

  1. It’s context-based.
  2. It asks questions that are relevant to your problem
  3. It simulates and gives probabilities of failures and weak points.
  4. It has a cool name.

So what does it do? Essentially, engineers at Netflix understood that their servers bring in a lot of people. And failure is imminent – it’s not unavoidable but imminent. A matter of time before something crashes.

What happens when 1.5 million or 10 million people log in to watch Stranger Things? Of course, Netflix being Netflix, that won’t crash them because they will be prepared. How? Using their Simian Army.

No, it’s not like the monkeys Lex Luthor uses in the pocket universe in Superman. But, a method of anticipating failure points and preparing for them. They developed this by imagining a monkey with a wrench wrecking havoc on their systems.

With this, they found vulnerabilities that they could never have anticipated by shutting down instances and entire servers to see what would break and what would remain functional. They knew that IT complexity wouldn’t be a clean solution.

Netflix knew they had to break things (virtually, of course) to see what was affected and what was not. That was 14 years ago in 2011.

Now, Kubernetes, Grafana, and other tools make it easier to handle failures, but the complexity hasn’t gone anywhere. Instead, chaos engineering might become a focal point of future software development.

As AI builds code or users delve into AI-assisted coding, what would matter the most? Identifying failure points as complexity arises.

In short, a person who can anticipate failure, create systems for it, and manage complexity. Which of course will require clear documentation- yes, documentation that cannot be replicated by AI but by someone who sees clear patterns and observes systems as they become more complex.

Maybe, the future of development is not less complexity but more complexity stuffed into efficient packets- that’s worth exploring.

5 B2B Podcasts Emerging Trends for 2025: A Revolutionary Shift or A Temporary Hype?

5 B2B Podcasts Emerging Trends for 2025: A Revolutionary Shift or A Temporary Hype?

5 B2B Podcasts Emerging Trends for 2025: A Revolutionary Shift or A Temporary Hype?

Podcasting is moving towards authentic and data-driven communication. But are these B2B podcasts trends a fad or the future? The verdict’s here.

With a special focus on the future of audio content, James Cridland says that podcasts are a treat for your ears while your eyes are busy. That’s what makes it so unique and popular: it’s audio-first.

And with this, the podcasting world has crossed a huge milestone.

According to Baclinko’s recent survey, 55 percent of US adults listen to at least one podcast episode every month. With the growing customer base, the podcasting industry is all set to mature from a niche channel to a non-negotiable content pillar. Actually, it’s already there.

Over 78% of B2B executives listen to podcasts for up-to-date industry insights and professional growth, spending 54 mins per day on them. This offers marketing a direct line to the target audience. What does this mean?

In 2025, B2B podcasts aren’t ‘nice-to-have’ for your marketing. But imperative to your trust-building arsenal. It’s become non-negotiable for brands. If you aren’t tapping into this goldmine, you’re missing out.

Core B2B Podcast Trends and Statistics to Keep You Informed

If you’re only now getting into the game, you must heed the drastic shift the podcast is currently going through. The current B2B podcasting trends showcase a move away from broad-stroke marketing. And a strategic leap into purpose-driven, intuitive engagement.

This is transforming transactions into a value exchange. The inherent dynamic between buyers and brands turns into a partnership, rather than a bargain.

But according to industry experts, this is just the beginning. It’s worth giving heed to some of the core B2B podcast trends every leader must keep on their radar.

1: Among the Top 150 podcasts, over 61% post a video for each podcast.

Podcasting is facing a format revolution.

From audio-only podcasts, the market is drifting into integrating video cues. The logic behind this shift is quite simple- if audio podcasts became a goldmine for advertisers on such short notice, what could video podcasts bring in? It’s all about vamped experiences. With just listening, the focus is on the conversation- the dialogue. We come to believe the voices and build parasocial connections with them.

Does adding video seem like the next strategic step? With visual cues added to the already advanced listening, marketers unlock higher engagement rates. Because it becomes easier to share among fellow employees as well as on social platforms. Your brand doesn’t just entail a voice, but also humanizes it to instill trust seamlessly.

YouTube and LinkedIn are already locking in. And as of January 2025, YouTube has become the number one platform for podcast discovery.

This strategic inclusion has unlocked a new treasure trove for B2B marketers. With vodcasts, there are now interactive elements such as quizzes, polls, and Q&As that turn passive listeners into active members.

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Source: IBM’s Making of the SRE Omelette

The Verdict?

Vodcasts could be a fun little experiment. Even though multi-platform content creation is imperative for discoverability, experts fear that it’s all just hype. Even though there are crucial investments into integrating video, have any podcast publisher stopped to question if that’s what suits their audience? It’ll dilute the entire strength of audio, one that feeds into the listener’s imagination.

So, even if publishers give in, they will scale back. There will be a constant cycle of adoption and then retreat until they develop a treaty, i.e., combine audio with intentional and minimal video cues. But there’s another scenario- two-thirds of US podcast listeners already prefer podcasts with videos.

This could mark a turn because videos cater to different consumption habits. And preferred by algorithms in professional networks. Vodcasts could easily become the next new thing and a revolutionary step in content delivery.

2: Hyper-niche podcasts illustrate 3 times more engagement than broad-topic ones, citing elevated listener trust and action.

If in 2025, you’re attempting to appeal to everyone, you’re likely appealing to no one. You either go niche or your content goes unnoticed.

With 5 million shows held globally, 75 million episodes, and 3.2 million active podcasts, it’s time to break from the bubble. Your brand must tap into niche marketers rather than sticking to traditional gimmicks. But niche doesn’t mean narrowing your reach; it’s about precision targeting. And that’s basically a dream.

Hyper-niche content is an expressway for brands to boost their reach and establish themselves as a credible thought leader. The priority will shift onto highly-focused shows that target specific personas, accounts, and verticals. Additionally, some big names could curate invitation-only podcasts for business leaders and key clients.

This way, your B2B podcasts are shifting from a “selling to” mentality to “solving for.”

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Source: Talent Acquisition Leaders

Tight-knit communities have a single vantage point- they’re loyal and easy to convert into customers. According to Cridland, these “micro-communities deliver conversion rates three times more than generic network buys.” The truth is, downloads are easy to track, but any related attributions, whether they are played entirely or at all, remain in question.

So, brands must think beyond these KPIs, i.e., the number of downloads. That’s no longer the true sign of engagement. In modern buying cycles, CPM is going on the back burner. Listening-to-action conversion, listener sentiments, and listener retention will come to drive the steering wheel. The focus is on the listener- how are they engaging with the podcast, not the podcast numbers themselves.

The Verdict?

Hyper-niche podcasts are here to stay. And honestly, it’s a strategic step towards delivering personalized content. The demand for tailored solutions will make niche-driven podcasts a norm, turning them more sophisticated. Because not only will it serve as a direct channel to build connections, but it will also be poised as the audio equivalent of a whitepaper written for a single client company.

3: Podcast marketing has shifted beyond directed advertising. 84% of the total podcast ad revenue is attributed to dynamically-inserted ads.

Ad sponsorships won’t alone power each B2B podcast, especially with shrinking marketing budgets.

There must be alternate streams of revenue to offer the podcast channel long-term stability. You can’t merely measure a podcast’s growth and success through the number of downloads. It must have a tangible impact on the sales pipeline. But how do you measure the influence? You leverage your B2B podcasts as a sales enablement tool.

Apply more lateral thinking to this content model. How else can you drive in leads through your podcasts?

  • AI-driven dynamic ads to offer ads based on who’s listening, where they are, and what they’re listening to.
  • Special sponsorship bundles for particular decision-makers.
  • Branded segments where the sponsoring brand becomes a part of special segments, such as ‘talk with experts’ or ‘special episodes.’ One such example is Salesforce. They partnered with Spotify to deliver voice-over ads that can amp up brand recall and affinity. The ad campaign’s objective was to reach the next generation of decision-makers. And who would these be? The young, tech-savvy audience- Generation Beta.

And the result was exorbitant.

Spotify’s solution helped Salesforce reach the young decision-makers during their downtime through podcasts. They witnessed an 11% increase in intent to seek information, and a 30% boost in unaided recall, all the while driving traffic to Salesforce’s website.

“We knew our audience was probably interested in podcasts that fall within Business and Tech categories, but Spotify helped us understand how they’re streaming throughout the day—not just for work.”

Salesforce’s Global Brand Marketing Director

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Source: Spotify

The Verdict?

Monetization podcast models are gaining momentum.

This comprises subscription-driven premium podcasts for dedicated listeners, sponsorship bundles, and live events. To make the most of their podcasts, agencies have started holding tiered memberships, branded merch, collaborative stages (with other podcasters), and more live experiences in the form of ‘pod perks.’

It’s a broad shift from direct ads to a more focused approach. Free from intrusive and irrelevant ad content, listeners receive more valuable and actionable ads. This move has established podcasts as a business asset more than just a marketing channel. You keep your audience coming back for more (see Apple Podcasts‘ subscription model).

As CFOs demand clearer ROI from marketing functions, it’s become imperative to link your B2B podcasts to tangible business outcomes. Monetization podcasts become your saving grace- a much-needed maturity of traditional podcasts.

4: 76% of B2B brands launch podcasts to drive thought leadership. And 56% of them treat the guest speaker as the thought leader.

Podcasts have made a steadfast shift from being a personal storytelling medium to a B2B marketing tactic.

In the digital-first world, it has become a go-to for time-crunched decision-makers to access meaningful touchpoints. It’s become thought leadership that one can consume on the go. And listeners are 2.7 times more likely to trust a brand if it publishes educational audio content consistently. At least that’s what the stats say. The rising popularity of podcasts in B2B marketing isn’t a media hype. It’s become the staple in tackling the increasingly complex B2B selling processes.

Due to content fatigue, people now spend less time skimming through visual content, whether blogs or videos. And podcasts are an intuitive option to bypass this shortened attention span. This has made podcasting viable for B2B marketers to get into some of the most challenging topics.

Before high-level executives look at pricing charts, they want to hear from trusted professionals with the right expertise. Especially when a high-stakes buy is involved across the SaaS, cybersecurity, and finance industries.

These B2B podcasts don’t merely build trust, but position your own subject-matter experts as the go-to authoritative voice. It shapes the perception of the company’s capabilities, making your leadership voice audible across influential circles.

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Source: Ciente’s TechTalk

Ciente’s TechTalk serves as an unfiltered space for thought leaders to share their voices. It positions the guests as thought leaders and offers them a space to provide opinions and insights on trending topics and market innovations.

Hosted by the brand’s CMO, it also positions Ciente as a credible thought leader through insightful dialogues that touch base on modern marketing practices over surface-level jargon.

The Verdict?

Podcasts as a thought leader engine isn’t a far-off dream; it’s already a reality. The average guest-to-customer conversion rate is 10%, more than traditional channels.

Moreover, businesses are leveraging podcasts to establish themselves as market-driving entities. This humanizes them into actual thinking bodies, not as hollow corporate buildings.

This trend is definitely here to stay- as a catalyst for valuable and intuitive business conversations.

5: AI is becoming a significant driver of podcasts as 40% of creators use modern tech to amp up their podcast’s performance, from content planning to reaching the relevant audience.

AI in podcast production is becoming the norm.

With this emerging tech, creating high-quality, engaging podcasts is now easier. It helps with market research and also with decoding the right talking points and post-production processes.

For the listeners, integrating AI will serve as an assistant. And highlight relevant episode recommendations depending on what the user is searching for.

Owing to this, podcasting could become highly data-driven. The use of analytics will uncover niche audiences for your brand and also help the creator craft scripts that resonate with the decision-makers. There are often highly complex topics, especially across SaaS and IT companies. AI will be able to assist with starting points that step into the nuances of market challenges.

Additionally, the emerging technology will help edit the audio, such as removing filler words, eliminating any background, and adjusting the levels. And in the near future, it could also be integrated to translate audio content in real-time across diverse locations.

With AI, B2B podcasts will become even more relevant and actually align with their preferences. This will facilitate more trust and credibility in your B2B podcasts.

One that goes beyond just listening. And centers on in-depth engagement that brings the listeners closer to the podcast.

And inevitably, to the brand.

The Verdict?

There’s no doubt.

AI in marketing isn’t a trend. It’s become a foundational tool for kickstarting specific functions. The level of insights and operational efficiency it can afford is quite difficult to overlook. And the B2B brands that grasp this and implement it with urgency will outpace competitors in quality and quantity.

These B2B Podcast Trends Aren’t Isolated Techniques.

As podcasts become a market favorite, they could easily become a primary sales channel. At least that’s the dream. But its explosive growth is helping marketers and businesses to establish a new equilibrium.

The podcast playbook is actively shaping the future of marketing in real-time.

All that B2B brands must do is align their core strengths with innovation to build a sustainable podcast ecosystem. The B2B podcasts trends for 2025 are proof of this.

The actual impact isn’t hidden in downloads. It comes from diversified podcast models that can penetrate unstable ad markets and retain the magic of audio content.

This is where B2B podcasts are headed- not shouting into a microphone, but really listening to your audience.

The new B2B handshake is not a written contract, but a shared headphone jack.

Strategic Benefits of Using Podcasts: Revisit Your Marketing Frameworks

Strategic Benefits of Using Podcasts: Revisit Your Marketing Frameworks

Strategic Benefits of Using Podcasts: Revisit Your Marketing Frameworks

With a convenient medium like a podcast, listeners can access high-quality content. What can this vantage point afford small businesses? Let’s find out.

Too many content pieces list out ‘how-tos’ when it comes to podcast marketing. But little do they delve into the why.

Yes, podcast marketing has proved effective on various occasions. But why- this should be the fundamental question. Too many businesses are stuck on the same page, replicating the same practices because big names declared them the best.

This isn’t how things work around in next-gen B2B marketing.

Buyers tired of your all-encompassing sameness will flock to competitors. And if you’re starting, doesn’t it prove disadvantageous for your business?

It’s time to rush away from the ‘best practices’ and dig into why something works the way it does. Why are some podcasts a one-time listen, and why have some podcast channels gained such a loyal following?

Underscoring the answers to these is the intuitive way forward, not just a strategic one, especially for podcast marketing.

As millions of users tune into their favorite B2B podcasts, what’s keeping them enticed to listen to the material? Is it the subject matter? The host? Or the entertainment factor? The obvious question is what exactly ticks customers.

Podcasts: An Answer to Marketing’s Prayers?

An in-depth inquiry into these questions has made podcasts a treasure trove for advertising. According to a third-party research conducted by WARC, global podcast ad spend is predicted to exceed $5 billion by the end of 2025.

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There’s very little content that customers interact with willingly. We’re talking about a diversity of formats- blog posts, banner ads, social media posts, TV and DOOH ads, and even videos. There’s content everywhere, and not all of it compels us or makes us gravitate towards it. Most of them are untimely ads that seem frustrating (see, Amazon Prime and YouTube).

We’re constantly pleading with brands to understand- we don’t want to watch this minute-long ad. It’s not just intrusive, but straight-up annoying. Who even has the time, even a few seconds of it?

And if they did, users would instead expend those few minutes consuming content they actually wish to, rather than ones they’re forced to. This is something marketers and advertisers still miss. Content is used as shtick, but its application takes the back seat.

Podcast’s creative and technical design helps tackle this hitch.

This marketing channel has been efficient in burning the barrier between consumer demand and desire, and amalgamating them into one. It’s why businesses are flocking to podcast marketing, so much so that there has been a fascinating 6.83% year-over-year increase in podcast listeners. A number that skyrocketed to 584.1 million in 2025. And is expected to hit a whopping 651.7 million by 2027.

It isn’t magic, but a tactic that feeds into the very psychology of why customers listen to podcasts in the first place. It’s convenient- and the sociability, flexibility, and intimacy are high. Across the modern B2B sphere, where buyers seek more relational marketing, podcasts help soften the noise.

It caters to a communication style that B2B buyers desperately vie for, one that instills trust and confidence in a brand rather than selling.

It’s the benefits that podcasts afford businesses that marketers are truly digging into. Let’s plunge into what they are.

A Strategic Edge Amid Market Saturation: Benefits of Podcasts for Modern Marketing

Benefit 1: Demand Generation

Have you heard of Ciente’s TechTalk?

It’s one of the best B2B podcasts out there. Instead of making it a one-sided information dissemination platform, the host, Ciente’s CMO, holds a dialogue. These conversations are a treasure trove for those who are seeking expert insight on the ongoing market hiccups. From Google to Microsoft, TechTalk has hosted multiple guests from some of the industry giants.

This has only played out in the demand gen agency’s favor. Leveraging podcasts across its operations has brought it exposure to some of the big names. You can then use it as a contact to nurture these accounts into customers.

This is the magic that podcasts can afford you, but only if done right.

It all depends on what you’re hoping to achieve with your podcasts- is it awareness or a thought leader tag? Podcasts can do both, but across different timelines. You must play your cards right. Use promotional content to launch your podcast channel and promote episodes based on contextual relevance.

In the short term, this’ll affect your exposure. But for the long term?

Dedicated listeners who can become customers and a concrete thought leader.

Benefit 2: Brand Recognition and Affinity

Do you know what fuels brand recognition? Consistency.

The point is that most marketing strategies operate with loose ends. There’s no set content strategy, whether it’s for your brand’s LinkedIn profile or blog postings. Some day, you post three pieces, and the others none. Do you really believe this is what will truly drive the engagement?

Branding is synonymous with consistency. Infuse this with podcasts? You’re accelerating your brand recognition. There’s a good chance that those appearing as guests on your podcast have never heard the brand’s name.

Podcasts present an opportunity.

You aren’t just tapping into your listeners, but the guests, too. Their loyal followers. This serves as the correct time to illustrate your brand values. And when you do this consistently? It instills your values and brand into the listeners’ minds.

Whether it’s a unique introduction or the material you cover, the audience knows you. It elevates your brand visibility and introduces you to potential news listeners.

For podcasting to be effective, you must publish and deliver content consistently. This’ll help you decide how to embed your podcast publishing into your audience’s listening routine. And then?

Gain valuable mindshare.

Benefit 3: Proof of Credibility

There are too many brands and way too much content out there. Navigating this sea has become exhausting. How do you know which brand to trust and which not to?

From social reviews to case studies, proof of credibility has become a significant need. The credibility and market positioning aren’t instilled through empty slogans, but in what you can deliver.

Podcasts are a major driver of this. It’s a platform that keeps on giving. But with it becoming a significant flare, how do you differentiate a forgettable trend-following channel from a genuine one?

You develop this through your podcasts. You can position your brand’s perception correctly, especially by utilizing long-form formats beyond social media posts and website copy.

Reach out to innovators, industry experts, and other thought leaders for real-world experience and expertise that adds credibility.

When someone from your brand converses with them, it’ll illustrate your own expertise in the field. And help concretize your brand as an emerging thought leader.

Benefit 4: Trustful and Value-Centric Connection

Trust is not created, but something that is earned. And modern marketing is precisely about that.

Amidst a crowded market, it’s challenging to decipher the brands that actually stand on business. Most convey lacklustre promises and fail to deliver on them upfront. Not every brand is out to help you solve your pain points. For some, customers remain numbers and a way to achieve the desired outcomes.

Podcasts cut through the empty promises.

It’s a sure-shot, authentic way to engage with your audiences.

Because listeners aren’t just engaging with your brand, but those behind it: the real people involved. This applies a more human touch to the colors, tagline, mission statement, and logo.

The podcast content itself is not something transactional. Instead, you’re offering your listeners informational value upfront; all they must do is listen. This makes the entire interaction more personal and intimate.

This is why podcast advertising works, you know, especially if the content is a banger.

The listeners themselves end up building a parasocial connection with the listeners. Because each new podcast episode becomes part of the daily routine for dedicated listeners. Your audience starts connecting to the voice involved, which they come to depend on for further information.

Podcasts facilitate brands and audiences to develop authentic and trustworthy client relationships in this way. It’s all about the consistency and tapping into that inherent need for human connection.

Benefit 5: Audience Reach

Podcasts open more avenues.

When you collaborate with other brand leaders, there’s also additional marketing content. These co-branded social posts can help elevate your reach. The interaction is very two-way. It goes beyond traditional media consumers.

Its unique design, i.e., on-demand content, lets business leaders consume the media at their own convenience. Whether it’s between meetings, during their commute, or while exercising, a podcast leverages the moments in between- moments of maximum attention.

This agility in delivery facilitates podcasts to strike when the time’s right, and resonate with a broader audience.

But this isn’t the only way podcasts increase your audience reach.

Podcasts are long-form content pieces that entail repurposing potential. You can transcribe your podcasts and convert them into blog posts, YouTube videos, or LinkedIn posts.

This helps gauge the maximum potential of your content and elevate the podcast’s reach across diverse channels.

Podcast As A Strategic and Intimate Ecosystem

Leveraging podcasts boils down to curating a dialogue. It’s about conversations that are driven willingly, unlike other forms of marketing channels. Engaging podcasts are always a part of conversations, not a one-sided monologue.

Here’s why it works.

Dialogues are invitations that lead listeners towards competence and entice them to desire proficiency, expertise, and mastery. A dialogue informs you- but it’s something that you seek out, not just vaguely come across.

With podcasts, you don’t just listen in or pay attention to. You want to be part of a club.

This component has instilled podcasts at the very nucleus of marketing, turning them from a fun experiment to a marketing staple. And an audience-favorite.

Podcast Marketing Examples: The Best List for All Use Cases

Podcast Marketing Examples: The Best List for All Use Cases

Podcast Marketing Examples: The Best List for All Use Cases

Not all podcasts are created the same. But can there be an objective list? Probably not. But here’s our list of podcasts we love.

Podcasting is having its big moment. It’s like Joe Rogan opened a Pandora’s box that empowered people to be out there, have fun with their friends while making money, and for experts to have conversations with other experts.

It is entertaining and a para-social experience- and if properly produced, almost cinematic. For some reason, people love to listen to others talk – podcasts are the natural evolution of a talk show. However, with less corporate oversight, or at least that was the idea. There are still corporate podcasts that lack the color to be successful.

However, businesses do find niche listeners, and that should never be disregarded; no matter the idea, it should be tried.

No idea, if done with clarity, will fail. And to prove that, here are some podcasting examples that will help you find inspiration, knowledge, and some of what they did to succeed.

There won’t be a boring intro for this one. We won’t be going into what a podcast is, what rules you need to follow to create the best podcast, or how to market it (we’ve already covered that in our podcast marketing strategy piece!).

So here’s the list of the best podcast examples. It’s not ranked and is subjective.

Top Podcasts for Businesses and Business Leaders: Ciente’s Picks

We’ll give you a list of the best podcasts. And you can take these as podcast examples for inspiration, listening, and growing.

TechTalk by Ciente

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This is our show, hosted by Ciente’s CMO Suruchi Bhargava. It is one of the best podcasts for business leaders to be on and listen to.

It’s literally a window into how these leaders work on the ground, something that is missing from podcasts in general. While many podcasts bring in guests, and it’s fantastic, they speak about their industries like a myth. And yes, podcasts are for storytelling, but what about information dissemination?

This is what we have tackled: bringing you insights directly from experts, dealing with similar problems to yours in real-time. It’s a treasure trove for people in marketing, tech, and sales- for tech vendors, this is what your buyers are dealing with, and for tech buyers, this is what your peers are dealing with.

We have an intuitive way of marketing our podcast (there’s more on our blog post on strategies). Essentially, we run simultaneous campaigns and understand that our listeners are people, and since the podcast is very social, we treat it as a piece of human communication, not just another content asset.

Slidebean

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Slidebean’s YouTube channel is one of the best business podcasts/shows. It’s not a traditional podcast in the sense that two people are talking, but it has the host talking and storytelling aspect. The production quality is top-notch, and the information is relevant.

The show isn’t just for leaders but everyone in SaaS – the videos are short and yet compress so much information, and CEO Jose “Caya” Cayasso is the perfect host- distilling the insights with such an engaging charm.

And the core focus of their channel is the most relevant topic: What is really going on with AI?

They tackle this topic across various domains and perspectives, and it’s perfect for people strapped for time- the videos are no longer than 25 minutes.

The Knowledge Project Podcast

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Shane Parrish has a wild story- he was a cybersecurity expert at an intelligence firm in Canada. He wrote about strategies, deep thinking, and learning on his blog – turns out his readers were from Wall Street.

And if you’ve read content on Farnam Street, his website, you know the information freely available on his website is worth millions of dollars, not that he monetizes it.

But that’s half the story- the knowledge podcast is where the real money is at. He has in-depth conversations with industry experts and stories about them, stories that the public at large is unaware of, like the billionaire who sold blueberries or the deconstruction of Andy Grove, the CEO of Intel.

He shares these lessons of resilience and the value of learning that affects decisions and people on a global scale. While the concept may seem abstract at first, these are tools that transform thinking and shape leaders.

And it is a disservice that it’s only at 333K subscribers on YouTube; it deserves far more. Look at Reed Hastings‘ interview with him and make your own judgment call.

AI in Context by 80,000 hours.

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Okay, hands down one of the best videos on AI we have ever seen. The host, Aric, is charismatic, and the product is on another level. And while it does seem like it is similar to Slidebean’s channel, it is less a podcast and more a docuseries, like Johnny Harris (fair). We’d like to argue that this is a podcast between you and the host.

The information is presented in interview formats with various experts, but the focal point is the storytelling aspect that the viewer and the channel form together. There aren’t many videos, but chances are you have seen the thumbnail of a war room with the words 2027 written on it.

It’s beautiful.

It’s produced by ‘80,000 hours’, a non-profit organization that empowers people to find stability and their life’s calling.

And while you may think, “What does science fiction and speculation have to do with business?” Let’s just stop and consider the effects of AI on our economy- mass lay-offs and techno-oligarchies are already here.

And 80,000 hours has its own podcast, which is quite fascinating if you want to check that out, too. But it’s broader- the topics are varied and can range from biology to geopolitics- and that’s something effective leaders are paying attention to.

This will help you look beyond SaaS.

The Exit Five CMO Podcast (Hosted by Dave Gerhardt)

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For a marketing leader, Dave Gerhardt’s podcast is a dream. He has this way of asking the right questions- knowing what is culturally relevant and what is popular in marketing, mixed with timeless principles.

But that’s all technical jargon; Dave’s magnetism as a host lies in his relatable storytelling. Like you imagine industry leaders to be, these corporate giants who speak in an alien tongue, but with Dave, each episode is like two friends having a conversation, and they’re just sharing wisdom over a cup of coffee.

And the crux of the matter is this storytelling. Gerhardt, and basically, Exit 5 is this community for marketers to grow. He transforms marketing from this not-so-accessible field into an approachable subject.

The crucial question marketing leaders have is: what works and why? And Dave has an answer in his podcast.

Scott Galloway’s Prof G Podcast

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Scott Galloway. About time the list hits someone “controversial.” And that’s Professor G.

But he isn’t Jordan Peterson, controversial; he’s just that “Hey, no bullshit here” type of person, and that reflects heavily in his podcast. And it is eye-opening for entrepreneurs and young people.

He offers this sage advice that might not always be politically correct by anyone’s standards, but he does have it and won’t shy away from saying it. Again, he does it without being offensive. That’s the NYU professor’s skills at work- he is a teacher through and through.

He has been an entrepreneur himself and has written a lot of books on making money and surviving economic crises- a perfect remedy for today’s times. However, some of his information can seem incomplete; you have to really dig into what he means. He has these Q&As that might answer your question, but with Scott, you don’t know whether you’re getting a thesis or an answer that may not satisfy you until you dig deeper- Scott values brevity.

Lenny’s Podcast

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This is for all the product managers, start-up founders, designers, product marketers, and CEOs. Lenny had his beginnings with his newsletter, which became wildly popular.

And the podcast offers deeper dives into the philosophy of product creation and management- he has this intuitive approach to hosting. He breaks down the principles product people use and dissects these principles to understand his guest’s approach.

And when you listen to him, you’ll understand just how abstract PM is. The podcast transforms all the top-level abstract insights of product management into understandable concepts and actionable pointers that leaders and managers can use to transform their product development cycle.

Why These Podcast Marketing Examples Actually Work

Podcasting isn’t some polished content machine, or rather, it shouldn’t be. It’s raw, alive, and dangerously simple.

People talking, or one person thinking out loud, and suddenly you’ve got an audience leaning in like they’re part of the room. That’s the power.

It isn’t the mic, or the editing, or some secret growth hack.

The best podcasts aren’t afraid of being messy. They don’t hide behind jargon or play safe; they cut through and connect. That’s why they work. Business leaders, founders, or marketers, one thing’s clear: with podcasts, you don’t need perfection. You need clarity, honesty, and the nerve to show up as you are.

Sales Prospecting vs Lead Generation

Sales Prospecting vs Lead Generation: The Distinction Everyone Pretends Doesn’t Matter

Sales Prospecting vs Lead Generation: The Distinction Everyone Pretends Doesn’t Matter

Without prospecting, lead gen is throwing darts with a blindfold on. What can hit the right mark? A reiteration of how prospecting differs from lead gen.

As lead generation efforts remain as linear as ever before, content alone isn’t enough. It sparks interest, but it doesn’t pinpoint if the account is the right fit. Here, even a wholehearted faith in tech adoption cannot hit the nail on the head. This solution is only about cutting corners.

The point isn’t getting a waterfall of leads, but a consistently healthy pipeline of high-quality accounts. Establishing this is where the real effort lies. With teams stretched thin in all directions, what can do the trick?

Well-timed and relevant outreach.

Lead generation without prospecting is an empty shell. 80% of buyers still want to hear from you during their decision-making process, irrespective of any self-research. But it’s only effective with the right timing and context.

Those who come out on top understand prospecting is an integral part of lead generation. Not siloed functions. Others? Their knowledge remains false.

Often used synonymously, prospecting and lead generation are two different funnel functions. And their flawless execution rests on underlining the foundational but vital differences between them.

The Need to Outline the Differences Between Lead Generation and Sales Prospecting

Businesses don’t buy, people do.

A glimpse into and a pivot to a very relational facet of B2B buying has altered a few perspectives. SDRs can’t just tout target accounts about how better, faster, and cheaper the solutions are.

Economic buyers don’t trust such selling.

Your buyers are all too aware of how the market works- they’re sellers and creators themselves. You’re presenting your solutions in an age of saturation, where your competitors can pull one over you and maybe do a better job at penetrating the cold exterior of your target accounts.

This is why taking the path to passive reactivity isn’t effective today. Especially in pursuing complex B2B SaaS sales.

When CEOs feel the business isn’t witnessing any activity on the TOFU, they demand more leads.

Where will the high-quality leads come from? Which team takes the brunt?

In the face of very few high-quality leads, marketing turns to quick peaks from performance metrics. And SDRs are expected to dial numbers for broad outreach. Without any substantial sales performance, these efforts are exhaustive. Siloed functions result in disasters-

Leads that end up going nowhere.

This is why lead generation and sales prospecting must work in tandem. The only stumbling block is amalgamating them as one. The more your business reaches into the account, the better it gets.

So, what can you do?

Implement different means that introduce layers to the lead acquisition and sifting process. There must be synchronicity and alignment to drive pipeline growth. To help your team penetrate the diverse sphere of influence, you should strike a strategic balance between lead generation and prospecting-

By primarily underscoring how they differ from one another.

Learning the Basics: Lead Generation v/s Sales Prospecting

Outreach means identifying and engaging the prospective buyers. That’s the most basic understanding. Whether it’s outbound or inbound, your teams are still researching who your promising accounts are and how you can engage them with the goal of converting them.

But at the bottom, it’s all about getting potential customers into the consideration set, helping them discover your brand at the right time- when they have the “need.” There has to be a rhythm and a process to increasing the receptivity of your messages.

But how?

We move beyond the best practices. The run after best practices has induced a sameness across the market, creating copycats after copycats. It isn’t what you wanted.

This is why it’s crucial to underscore why some businesses implement specific practices over others- where does prospecting reap benefits, and does lead generation ever work?

The methodological differences between lead generation and sales prospecting

1. Who’s Guiding the Processes?

Lead gen efforts are broadly marketing-driven. Because it’s about creating interest and awareness, and attracting new customers based on that. This necessitates a slow build-up and strategic storytelling that tells your brand story and establishes your value proposition.

Customers come to you, but only after you lay the road to your brand. And illustrate that you’re the bigger and better player in the market at the moment.

On the other hand, prospecting is a part of lead generation and sales-driven. Accounts passed on from lead generation efforts are assessed actively by SDRs to determine whether they’re the right fit.

So, you’re identifying those who fit your qualification criteria and then contact them to gauge if they truly are the right fit. And if the comms ascertain this, a meeting is scheduled for further negotiation and then conversion.

2. The End Goal

Lead generation is a one-sided effort by a brand to help relevant accounts take notice of what it can offer them. It all revolves around instilling brand awareness. You have to stand out in the crowded market to show the audience that there’s another player in town, and make an impression.

Meanwhile, prospecting creates a more open line of communication. And proves effective only when the target account is receptive to your interaction.

See, the objective is to schedule meetings, and if the person on the other end of the line isn’t open to hearing you out, it’s the end. Here, you find another pathway or try a hand at warm prospecting (warm follow-ups).

Your sales team researches, finds out the right-fit accounts, and then makes contact with them. Unlike lead generation, it’s more direct and proactive. It offers your team control over lead generation, offering a basis for further nurturing.

3. Communication => Qualification

Lead generation is indirect and a one-to-many strategy. You’re not diving into your TAM to churn out leads and call them right away. Instead, it’s about building multiple bridges to your brand- whether it’s content marketing, SEO ads, lead magnets, or event marketing.

As the accounts interact with these channels, it becomes apparent which ones have purchasing propensity. This is what lead generation is pinpointing- right-fit accounts that require a solution like yours. And then creating awareness like, “Hey, we can help you with your problem!”

Lead gen is about making your brand discoverable.

Whereas sales prospecting dives in deep. This one-to-one strategy works wonders for small businesses, startups, and even B2C customers. Could it navigate the complexities of a diverse B2B buying committee?

It could also prove beneficial to build a connection with at least one POC. Digital transformation can transform prospecting. It’s no longer working with blind folds on. SDRs now hold more information on who they’re calling up or sending emails to. This already gives a sense of whether they’re the right fit.

And helps your sales team avoid intrusive contacting, wasting your and the executive’s time. Because today, people are more strategic about who they give their time to. This is why prospecting cannot be dialing numbers; it must be intuitive.

4. The Approach

Modern lead gen techniques aren’t about generating leads. It includes the nurturing process, i.e., you build deeper and more sustainable relationships with your target accounts. This is why an omnichannel strategy has become a modern B2B marketing prerequisite, especially targeting different stakeholders across a single account.

This way, you’re offering them value that directly relates to their pain points and builds trust for the long term.

But prospecting is about initiating contact with an account you deem the right fit. And further conversation decodes its potential as a prospective buyer-

  1. Who are they?
  2. Do they have the need?
  3. Does this POC have the authority to make the decision?
  4. Do they want to take the conversation further?

Because this is a first contact, prospecting comprises engaging with cold or new accounts, ones with the highest potential for conversion. Your SDRs take a step forward, whereas in lead generation, the interested accounts come to you, and you capture interest.

However-

Prospecting and lead gen, although different, don’t operate in silos.

Almost no marketing campaign or strategy has ever had an immediate effect. But that’s what most marketers trail- immediate, tangible outcomes in a bid to justify their marketing and advertising spend. In this hope, they start prioritizing performance metrics over a sweet balance with brand consistency, which can get them a higher ROI.

The quick peaks have made them delirious. This illusion that numbers drive the business had created a disconnect with sales before. SDRs had one concern- they didn’t trust the leads that marketing sent their way. Often, in an urgency to fill the pipeline, the quality turns out disappointing. This led SDRs to conduct their own set of prospecting. Technically, this is what you do if what marketing gives you is junk.

But that’s not the long-term solution.

Your best quality leads should come from marketing, given that inbound is done correctly. And each lead generated should be followed up by focused prospecting. This is vital to the extremely long sales cycle.

At the first interaction, prospecting offers an overview of market challenges and gaps. Talking to different accounts opens avenues that other channels can’t. You can dive into the mindset of your TAM and address pain points from the nucleus.

Prospecting in lead generation is your most valuable battle card.

That’s how an integrated approach should work. Your leads are already aware of the brand and are serious about a purchase. This allows for little disconnect.

The truth is, you cannot take a one-way ticket to mediocre campaigns. That’s not how modern marketing operates.

When a B2B buyer is searching for solutions, there’s only one scenario here. They come across solutions that sound the same, look the same, and messages that feel the same. In this sea, the B2B buyer’s focus then falls onto the brand’s market positioning and pricing points. None of the brands actually end up making a sale or, for that matter, breakout growth.

Falling into old habits always feels a tad less risky, it’s true, but not sustainable.

This is why a holistic approach is the way forward for all of marketing. No function can operate in a silo. And if they do, you know why your sales pipeline is facing a persistent drought. This sales-marketing misalignment is a rupture for businesses.

And the only way forward is ensuring they align and overlap to build seamless campaigns that focus on the facet that matters most: customers.

Podcast Marketing: Expand Your Influence

Podcast Marketing: Expand Your Influence

Podcast Marketing: Expand Your Influence

Podcast Marketing might be the new frontier. But only if it has a personality; if it doesn’t – you need to rethink.

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People love storytelling. Even mundane stories remind us of the little joys of life and to observe the different idiosyncrasies of others.

The podcast is the perfect tool for this. It’s this century’s very own sit-around-the-fire storytelling.

There’s always a charismatic host- the fire. Then the wise guest- the elder. And at last, the listeners – a tribe sitting around the fire listening and gaining years’ worth of experiences or the experiences of a storyteller.

For a brief moment, everyone is back to a time when information was passed on verbally. A bit changed and a bit mystical, but still inspiring, hopeful, and informative. This type of communication gave people the courage and mental tools to act.

That’s why the podcast is a cultural milestone; one that has been used to entertain, to diss, and to pass on crucial information.

And this is how you market yours.

Does your business need a podcast?

This is the question you should be asking first. Creating a podcast is a lot of work, a rewarding one, especially monetarily (for brands but also personally for the creator).

It involves: –

  1. Finding a host whom people want to listen to.
  2. Giving your topic a fresh take that hasn’t been done (to the death) before.
  3. Finding and sourcing guests to feature on the podcast, or if it is an internal podcast, having the right people with shareable knowledge.
  4. Marketing the podcast

If you think the podcast may yield a net positive, then go ahead with it. Podcasts are on the rise, but so are concerns of oversaturation. There are a lot of great shows, and attention is scarce. Either you capture it or you don’t; there isn’t much middle ground.

Even engaging shows experience churn, and the listeners move on to newer things.

In short, do it, but it is an investment- time and money, both.

What do you need to start a podcast?

If you do take on the challenge, this is what you will need: –

  1. A mic or two (please invest in a mic, you don’t need a great one, but a good one, and good mics are cheaper than you may think.)
  2. A camera to record (iPhones aren’t bad; neither are smartphone cams, but the podcast will eat storage, so this is something you have to manage)
  3. A host (someone who knows the topic inside out and can speak on it and ask questions)
  4. Editing software (Da Vinci Resolve’s really good, and its free tier is powerful)
  5. Choose a network to host on and an RSS feed link (Spotify is free and offers the least resistance, but there are more. Buzzsprout is a famous one.)

Podcast Marketing strategy

Okay, there is a vital step that should not be skipped: your podcast must be interesting for it to grab people’s attention.

Or else, it is nothing but a marketing gimmick.

That is one of the only prerequisites that will take you far enough- to have something substantial to talk about or in novel ways. Only then will any strategy work long enough to return an investment.

Your podcast will only generate revenue when: –

  1. Your listeners value it.
  2. Your guests (if any) feel like they want to be on it, i.e., if you have high-quality listeners they care about.

The rest is a matter of discovery.

Podcast Marketing Strategy 1 – Embrace the weird

Okay, CEOs and CMOs, strap in. The first marketing strategy we have here is on the presentation, which will set the stage for everything that follows.

The question for the podcast marketing strategy is this: what are you bringing to the table?

However, this idea may seem a bit difficult to grasp. You have products and services you want to sell. Of course, it would be around the topic. But that’s not what podcast listeners need. Look at the trends, and you will see that a podcast is listened to because it speaks to a tribal nature. OR a storytelling hook.

For example, GE launched The Message, one of the most famous B2B Podcasts.

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And that’s in 2016, when podcasts were new and there was increasing traction for them. GE could have leaned into something else, but they didn’t, and that’s why they became one of the most listened to podcasts ever for a while.

Of course, GE had resources, and they could afford a voice cast and effects. But that wasn’t the reason- it was the premise that improved brand-consumer relationships and integrated GE’s offers into the podcast seamlessly.

This means: –

  1. Thinking of new ways of approaching a topic.
  2. Knowing which guests, if any, need to be on the show.
  3. What questions can you ask that haven’t been asked before?

This is the crux of a successful podcast- to investigate what makes a topic interesting.

Podcast Marketing Strategy 2 – Distribution

You cannot depend on the algorithm to make your show discoverable. You must build a distribution channel, and this is where the leaders of your organization jump in.

While the marketing team runs their campaigns on social and owned media like email and advertising, organizational leaders must use their network to disseminate the podcast to their peers.

This is a step that is often forgotten- independent creators have the mammoth task of building an audience and must share and promote heavily on social. What they won’t do for the same resources as a business.

But you do have resources, and one of the best ones is your teams acting as ambassadors. The marketing team can write and craft the message, but your leaders and employees must promote it.

Without this human touch, the podcast won’t grow much. Because, believe it or not, word-of-mouth is vital for a podcast.

Here’s an example of Steven Bartlett, host and creator of the show Diary of a CEO.

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Steve’s show started off simple, in his bedroom with a duvet over his head. But it exploded and continues to bring in big names. How is this possible? He uses content distribution- he atomizes his content and distributes it on YouTube, LinkedIn, TikTok, Instagram, you name it, the guy created content clips for each channel and became one of the most recognized podcasters.

All because of a single method. Now imagine your leaders doing it- the net gain would be insane. But there has to be a cadence set by marketing teams- it cannot be an assault on everyone in the organizational network.

Podcast Marketing Strategy 3- Meta-Storytelling

Content Atomization is the name of the game in this strategy. We are assuming you have done the basics like: –

  1. Researching your ICP
  2. Having an email list and audience to talk to
  3. Handled the technical stuff and recorded the podcast

And they are looking purely for marketing strategies.

In this stage, all you have to do is create meta-narratives for your podcast. These look like blooper reels or something confrontational or wise that comes from behind the scenes.

Then, using social media, you show the humans behind the production and their stories. Here’s another example by Bartlett: –

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What does this have to do with his show? Absolutely nothing. It’s engagement. But it leads to storytelling and attracting talent. But that’s not one of the main reasons- the main reason behind this is to show how he runs things, and that attracts people.

The meta-narrative here is that the culture is a goldmine, and the guests are attracted to it.

This is the same playbook Alex Hormozi uses; he breaks his content down to sell or attract crowds to his offers. People talk about meta-narratives more than they talk about the podcast itself.

People love talking about each other’s highs, lows, and entertaining aspects. Whether you use social for this, an influencer, or your owned media, your audience needs to care about the people, especially the host, making the show.

A podcast isn’t just content; it’s a fire you build. And like any fire, it needs care, fuel, and people who believe in gathering around it.

Podcast Marketing about treating it like a show, not an afterthought.

Podcast marketing is tricky. However, the thought leadership and brand relationships it builds are undeniable. Listeners and guests come to enjoy the show and the host- this is a given.

But what do many brands do? They run it like an afterthought with little effort and personality. Is that what your audience or you want?

What about your guests? Are they on the show because they want to sound smart or because there’s actual value they want to share? It’s usually the latter, but it ends with the former happening because the host doesn’t infuse it with personality.

It’s difficult for brands to produce these shows- clear ROI is not visible, especially at the beginning, and then topping it off with distribution? That has got to be tough.

That’s why Ciente helps brands market their podcasts and empowers leaders to become living brands through our own TechTalk. But the central focus is to get your voice out there. Or improve your podcast’s visibility.

In the end, Ciente helps you focus on what you do best: create and speak to your audience, while we amplify what’s already there to the right people.